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Getting Ready: New Things Coming to They Will Say ANYTHING!

As I mentioned in passing a few days ago, big changes are coming soon to They Will Say ANYTHING!

My stepson, Phil, a fifteen year old who is as gifted in understanding all the consequences the new millennium as I am stuck in living out all the consequences of the past one, is redesigning this blog to incorporate many new features that will add eye-pleasing features, additional content, and easier navigation when here. Phil tells me stuff about the Internet cloud and SEO and subdomains and other things I'm modestly aware of, but I've seen what he has in mind and it's exceptional.

The transformation to the new site and its happy new features will be as seamless as possible to those of you who follow or subscribe. More soon!



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Memorial Day 2009 Video

I'd hoped to have this video up for Memorial Day, but as I wrote, my visualizing a project runs far ahead of my completing a project . . . Also, I'd hoped to upload a better version - this one jumps about a bit on the fading ins and fading outs. I think it might play best in "full screen."

Despite all that, here it is, with Bernard Fanning's "Watch Over Me" as accompaniment, for all those remembered and for those who remember them:





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Gingriched: The Missing Rest of the Story about Pelosi and CIA Criticisms.

Here's the exchange from last Sunday's Meet the Press:





Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL): I’d just say that I’m afraid Mr. Gingrich is suffering from a little political amnesia here. He’s forgotten that in year 2007, he criticized the National Intelligence estimate in regard to the capability of Iran to develop nuclear weapons and said that — if I remember the quote correctly, I’m looking down here — that what they did damaged our national security and misled the American people. Mr. Gingrich, would you like to make an apology to our intelligence agency for what you said in 2007?

Newt Gingrich (R-Everywhere): I said that particular report was intellectually dishonest. It was a public, non-classified report, and we were debating it. I said it was intellectually dishonest. I never said the CIA lied to the Congress, which would be illegal. It would be a felony.

Senator Durban was referring to a December 2007 Gingrich article, Iran NIE: Bureaucratic Coup D'etat, in the conservative online magazine Human Events.com. Many have cited this article, as Durbin did, to either support or rebut Gingrich's call for Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to apologize or step down for her statements recently about the CIA and Bush era torture briefings for Members of Congress.

Gingrich defended by asserting that he was merely criticizing the State Department in his criticism of the NIE. He actually wrote that they "wrote [the] document" - the NIE. However, as he well knew, the NIE is and was then compiled and authored by the Director of National Intelligence and the National Intelligence Council, in which the CIA plays an integral role.

That misleading phrase aside, he goes on further in the article to do what he denied doing to Senator Durbin and others: he accuses the CIA of lying to Congress. Thus far, I've not heard of this being reported by the media. It occurs later in his December 2007 article, in a second section titled, "The NIE Is the Tip of the Iceberg: A North Korean-Syrian Nuclear Site?"
But the NIE is just the tip of the iceberg.

Last summer, you may recall, the Israelis bombed a site in Syria. Today, there is a public rumor that the site was a North Korean-Syrian nuclear site. But the thing is nobody is talking about this. No one in the administration will tell the American people if this is true and, if so, what this means to our national security.

It is a fundamental disservice to us as Americans to have such potentially threatening activity going on and not to be told the truth about it. We need an intelligence community that we can trust to tell us the truth.

Or we need leadership that will insist on this minimal standard from its intelligence bureaucracy.
In either case, we need more than we're getting.

Now, let's note that even Gingrich who is notoriously freewheeling with the truth, or even the very idea of "truth" as a concept, cannot back away from those words. He directly accused the intelligence community -- all of them, including the CIA -- of lying to the American public. I'm unsurprised.

Yes, as Gingrich defends himself to Durbin, he did not write that the intelligence community lied to Congress, yet his written condemnation is nothing more than a distinction without a difference. Gingrich is such a virtuoso of mendacity that he attempts to draw fine lines of distinction like this one so that he can weasel in and out of any discussion untarred. And, unfortunately, Durbin and others haven't confronted him with the rest of the story he wrote in Human Events.

Why the media reporting has overlooked this I'll never know, but they do remain in thrall of anything and everything Gingrich. Yeah, that liberal media . . .


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Coming soon . . .

I had hoped to post a Memorial Day slide show video yesterday, but missed my deadline. I'm finding more and more that I think like a 30 year old when scheduling, but perform like a 59 year old when performing . . . I'll continue to work on the video, though, and post it as a belated Memorial Day 2009 commemoration as soon as possible for, as I wrote, a 30 year old boss stuck with a 59 year old employee . . .

Also, on another topic, my stepson, Phil, a 15 year old blessed with both a brilliant mind and an ability to work patiently with this 59 year old who still thinks in terms of print media, is designing and implementing a new blog design and site for They Will Say ANYTHING! We hope to have it up and running soon, and to make it easy or automatic for all subscribers to move with us.

Snoopers Tip #11: Guide to the Upcoming European Parliament Elections.

"The whole of Europe will be going to the polls between June 4 and 7, 2009.
To be more accurate, of course, 40% will."


And that's a great number, indeed. This Snoopers Tip (TM) provides a number of sites that provide information about the upcoming elections. In addition, browsing these sites provides further information about the European Union and its Parliament.

From their European Parliament elections site, the European Observer reports, "The 7th European Parliament elections are due to take place in June 2009. Some 400 million Europeans will be eligible to elect 736 MEPs (Members of the European Parliament) for the only European institution in which citizens have a direct say in who represents them."

According to the European Parliament's Internet site, "The European Parliament is the only supranational institution whose members are democratically elected by direct universal suffrage. It represents the people of the Member States. The European Parliament, which is elected every five years, is involved in drafting numerous laws (directives, regulations etc.) that affect the daily life of every" citizen. Go here for information about the European Union's European Parliament, and the European Parliament's powers. And here is an interactive map of the European Union containing information about each country's apportionment, etc.

Courtesy of Wikipedia, here are the election dates - MEP = Member of European Parliament:

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Bush Era Torture: Truth As An Inconvenient Truth.

And that's understated. What Bush Now Here's an Understatement:

“Good policy is difficult to make when information is systematically collected in a way
that minimizes discrepancy with policy goals.”
Iraq Study Group

We're weathering a Class Five Brouhaha regarding "who knew what and when" about Bush era torture policy. Bush administration Enhanced Bullsh*t Techniques (EBT) are gradually unraveling. It'll take time. For eight years we'd become accustomed to "all bullsh*t all the time." It's surprisingly hard work to reacquaint ourselves with "truth" even as a concept, much less an ethic that ought to drive government relations with its citizens.& Comp. did to truth regarding most everything is still understated, and it needs to be overstated. As a country, we're in repair truthiness-wise.

In 2004, Ron Suskind famously reported about Bush-time attacks against the very concept of "truth," or "fact." Suskind captured a seminal moment, a time when an unnamed White House aide told the truth, accidentally to be sure, while simultaneously revealing the opening of the age of truth's nonexistence and immateriality:
The aide said that guys like me [writer Ron Suskind] were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'' [Emphasis added]
Truth and reality, he's saying, proceed from action, not from "studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will." Not from, for example, reference to history of the Middle East and its many sad, final resting places for soldiers and empires. No, Bush acted first and created the monstrous reality that we now try to "just study" in order to subdue it and disengage. Did Bush era advisers like Wolfowitz, Perle, and other neoconservatives learn from history that the region is a poor fit for western concepts of "democracy," or that, in fact, westerners themselves disagree mightily about its meaning? No. These neoconservative thinkers valued neither fact, nor history, nor reality. They acted at will and willed to action. Everything normally associated with foreign policy was subordinated to an overarching urge to action, to the use of power to settle arguments and realize dreams. All else was immaterial, irrelevant.

Jay Rosen wrote brilliantly about this in Retreat from Empiricism: On Ron Suskind's Scoop:
The alternative to facts on the ground is to act, regardless of the facts on the ground. When you act you make new facts. You clear new ground. And when you roll over or roll back the people who have a duty to report the situation as it is—people in the press, the military, the bureaucracy, your own cabinet, or right down the hall—then right there you have demonstrated your might. . .
Believe Me Now, Bury Me Later. In place of empiricism or informed thought, they valued dreams and beliefs and acted upon those dreams and beliefs. As that White House aide said so well, "you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'' Because "study" is what we do; act is what they do; act it what empires do. Their dreams of Middle East dominance therefore required, philosophically, that they feed the "reality-based community" the mass of information that it desired, so-called "facts." Since the "truth" they respected resided only within the unexamined force of their dreams and beliefs, neoconservative philosophy permitted them, in a sense, to honestly and ethically distort all that they considered of no value, i.e. history, fact, truth. To them, those mundane things, if relevant at all, follow action. These are not the bailiwick of powerful men and empires. They are the secondary - essentially meaningless - hobbies of the reality-based community. Lying became a driving ethic, and in their minds, an ethical activity and a legitimate way to order the world.

I'm certainly not going to argue that "fact" or "reality" are matters of agreement in any "reality-based" community. All of us interpret history differently, yet we - most of us - value history, or, more philosophically, we value the search for truth before we act, even though we agree about the overarching difficulty of the process. It's work. Also, we attach humanistic or religious ethical considerations to those deliberations, prior to action, even though we thereby invite argument and resistance. Contrarily, as we know, if one pushed back in the Bush administration, one was pushed out . . .

So, What's All That Got To Do With The Price Of A Waterboard? Give me a minute, I'll try to get there. . . Basically, the storm over whether Speaker Pelosi, or Senator Shelby, or Senator Rockefeller, or anyone else in Congress "knew or should have known" about torture, including waterboarding, threatens to move the inquiry into that murky area that defined "truth" in the Bush era. In a sense, we're still recovering from their consistent lying and propaganda, so we might, out of habit, bite this bait on the GOP hook.

We simply cannot afford to allow them to cause us to believe that what the Democrats knew is a more important question than what the Bush administration did. Nor can we let them change the essential questions to hide the fact that the GOP was the majority party during six of the eight years of Bush's stupendancy.** Torture, as conceived, condoned, and practiced is the question here. When Nancy Pelosi knew, or what Senator Shelby knew, pales in significance. It's of interest, to be sure, but a matter of national obsession it is not. We have to keep our eye on the ball.

Peeking Over the Hedge. So, here we have a portion of the cover letter accompanying CIA Director Leon Paneta's torture briefing list:
This letter presents the most thorough information we have on dates, locations, and names of all Members of Congress who were briefed by the CIA on enhanced interrogation techniques. This information, however, is drawn from the past files of the CIA and represents MFRs [Memorandum For the Records] completed at the time and notes that summarized the best recollections of those individuals. In the end, you and the Committee will have to determine whether this information is an accurate summary of what actually happened. We can make the MFRs available at CIA for staff review. [Colors added]
That's not exactly the most ringing of endorsements of the veracity of the CIA or the list. I've hedged my bets before, and that wording is primo hedging. In the cover letter. Good start.

Now, admittedly, one of my nightmares is that there is truth in the GOP accusations flying around that my mostly beloved Democrats were informed in detail about waterboarding and other torture techniques. It's only a nightmare, though, since the truthfulness of any Bush era CIA documentation is doubtful, at best, particularly their contemporaneous briefing notes that will likely be released soon. Let's remember the context: the wild and woolly run-up to the Iraq invasion. Remember the political climate then. Recall the pressure exerted on the CIA and others by the Cheney Forward Headquarters, the Bush White House, and Field Marshal Rumsfeld. Remember that the first casualty of the Bush administration was truth.

So, the veracity of the briefers' notes would be particularly doubtful, especially during the periods they were under enormous executive branch pressure to keep certain nastiness hidden, or were pushed to misinform. In that context, of course their notes on briefings would claim that Congressional leaders were informed. I don't believe, especially, that possibly strong adversaries like Pelosi were informed fully. How they slipped up and actually informed Rep. Jane Harman to the point that in February 2003 she wrote a letter of objection to the CIA's General Counsel was probably viewed as a major faux pas.

Graham's No Cracker. Moreover, already, just a week after the release of the briefing list, Senator Bob Graham (D-FL) has proved in his case that the CIA list itself was highly inaccurate, to put it kindly. In other words, the simplest of documents, a list of meetings, for God's sake, is grossly inaccurate. So, we're to believe, according to Republicans like Senator Kit Bond (R-MO), that the briefers' notes, will be accurate? How about their notes for the three of four meetings they calim with Senator Graham when he has proved he was not present?

Graham also recalls the war drums of the time, and the extreme White House pressure on the intelligence agencies:
This was the same time within the same week [September 26, 2002] , in fact, that the CIA was submitting its National Intelligence Estimate on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq which proves so erroneous that we went to war, have had thousands of persons killed and injured as a result of misinformation.
Misinformation Was the Philosophy, the Strategy, and the Tactic of the Day. Republicans now expect us to believe the CIA's notes and lists produced during that time. A time when heads were rolling under Cheney's axe whenever a contrary CIA analyst disagreed with the Bush gang's propaganda. Remember the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) that Graham referred to above? We learned long ago that it was systematically ravaged by the administration, especially Cheney's office, to remove any contrary opinions or alternative analyzes by pesky - i.e. skeptical or truthful, in the old-fashioned sense - intelligence analysts. NIE's are supposed to include contrary analyzes and opinions of intel experts.

In any event, Senator Graham remembers the substance of that one briefing that actually did occur:
Nothing very remarkable. They were discussing the fact that they had detainees and that they were interrogating detainees. But nothing such as that they were using these extreme torture techniques that would have made it a surprising briefing.
Someone's fibbing, obviously. My guess? The C.I.A. And, as I wrote at the outset, this was consistent with the Bush administration's trashing of the concept and practice of truth. It was replaced by a philosophy that raised "the ends justify the means" from a prohibition to a sacrament; a sacrament in service of their beliefs and dreams; the dreams that now bring nightmares to those who have suffered because of them.

For our future as a nation, for our grandchildrens' history books, the Democratic majority must definitively put aside this GOP-engineered distraction and proceed full speed ahead with investigations.They must also urge Attorney General Holder to appoint a special prosecutor. We must pursue the answers to the real questions about Bush era torture policies that, pardon the expression, continue to torture our country.


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Stupendancy, stoo-PEN-dahn-see, a word coined here, stupendancy refers to an individual's achievement of his or her highest sustained period of utter and complete willful stupidity, as in "George W. Bush reached his stupendancy during the years January 2o, 2001, Noon (RST) - January 20, 2009, Noon (EST)."

Stupendarchy, stoo-PEN-darkee, a word coined here and related to stupendancy, stupendarchy describes a government that is dominated by the willfully stupid, as in "the stupendarchy of the Congressional GOP from 2001 to 2007 and the George W. Bush administration (2001-2009) was mind numbing even to Rhesus monkeys."

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Money Go Round!

Way down below in this post you'll find a good story, courtesy of The Monkey Cage. (Go ahead, read it now . . .) Good stuff seems to happen in that little world, except, as one commenter at The Monkey Cage pointed out, nowadays many parties cannot agree on what their debts are. Yet, even if that's true, the story could be seen to illustrate individuals paying down a portion of their debts, couldn't it?

In any event, this actually demonstrates the "velocity of money" concept, i.e. what happens when money actually moves around in an economy. However, note that in the story below nothing was produced in all the exchanges; debt was reduced. This is a good analogy as to where we are presently, although lately, money appears to be slightly on the move again with actual things and services being produced and provided, albeit at decession* (TM) levels. The concern intrudes that the rebound we're seeing now, unaccompanied as it is by employment gains, is merely due to a cyclical rebuilding of inventories - and at a much lower level than previously. That's a slippery slope that could result in another down leg for the economy as a whole if no recovery to previous inventory levels via employment gains follows. We have not yet begun, however, to see the full effect of the fiscal stimulus, and should it match the better expectations, a recovery in employment ought to result and then we can all exhale . . .

Yet recently, despite massive inflows of cash into the banking system, very little money is reaching the public. In fact, a dollar in the bank courtesy of the Federal Reserve or consumer deposits actually produces 86 cents, a negative return to the economy, so to speak. Our economy, when healthy, produces money through the fractional reserve system wherein banks must hold 10% of their deposits in reserve, and may lend out the rest. Thus, one dollar loaned out at Bank A produces, in total, about nine dollars more as each deposit in Banks B, C, D, etc. permits additional fractional lending by each succeeding bank, based upon successive deposits. In healthy times this produces spending on things and services. It's often called the "M1 multiplier effect" (see chart at right). What's missing now, and what the dip below 1.0 indicates is that banks are themselves hoarding money and not loaning it out and consumers are hoarding money in deposits and actually repaying loans. It's the "paradox of thrift" writ large, and economic activity grinds to a halt. No one loans; no one spends; bupkus.

Well, for some comic relief, here's the story promised at the outset, via Bob Goldfarb. Pass it along to Ben Bernanke, and, most importantly, to your local banker.

It is August. In a small town on the South Coast of France, holiday season is in full swing, but it is the rainy season not much business is taking place. Everyone is heavily in debt. Luckily, a rich Russian tourist arrives in the foyer of the small local hotel. He asks for a room, puts a 100 Euro note on the reception counter, takes a key, and goes upstairs to inspect the room.

The hotel owner takes the banknote and rushes to his meat supplier, to whom he owes E100.

The butcher takes the money and races to his wholesale supplier to pay his debt.

The wholesaler rushes to the farmer to pay E100 for pigs he purchased some time ago.

The farmer triumphantly gives the E100 note to a local prostitute who gave him her services on credit.

The prostitute goes quickly to the hotel, as she owed the hotel for her hourly room use to entertain clients.

At that moment, the rich Russian comes back down to reception, informs the hotel owner that the proposed room is unsatisfactory, takes his E100 back, and departs.

There was no profit or income. But now no one has any debt and the residents of the small town look optimistically towards their future.

* Decession - coined here, a decession is a recession deeper than the worst U.S. recession but less severe than the Great Depression. Decessions have characteristics both greater and different than previous major U.S. recessions.

They Will Say ANYTHING! - GOP Comedy Hour!

If you still wonder how the GOP "permanent majority" wound up a "present minority," here you go:

Minority Leader John Boehner. Birth Date May 13, 2009.



GOP Comeback Strategy: Hate's Got Coattails! Before listening to the video, note that House Report 111-086 accompanying the bill contains the following:

The bill has been crafted in a fashion that fully protects first amendment and other constitutional rights. The bill is designed only to punish violent acts, not beliefs or thoughts--even violent thoughts. The legislation does not punish, nor prohibit in any way, name-calling, verbal abuse, or expressions of hatred toward any group, even if such statements are hateful. Moreover, nothing in this legislation prohibits the lawful expression of one's deeply held religious or personal beliefs. The bill only covers violent actions that result in death or bodily injury committed because the victim has one of the specified actual or perceived characteristics.[Emphasis added]



Well, We Find It Interesting That You Can Talk and Sit Down at the Same Time. The Minneapolis/St. Paul City Pages reported Congressloon Michelle Bachmann's (R-MN) recent take on the swine flu. "'I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter,' she told a conservative website. 'And I’m not blaming this on President Obama. I just think it’s an interesting coincidence.' Since Gerald Ford of the GOP was actually president at the time of the earlier outbreak, Bachmann was roundly criticized for her comment."



Forbes Magazine Reveals: "Waterboard Hannity for Charity" Now Surpasses Gates Foundation as World's Richest Philanthropic Organization.
On his April 22, 2009 t.v. show, at about one minute into the video below, Sean Hannity told Charles Grodin that he'd be waterboarded as a charity fundraiser for our troops and their families. He's not spoken of it since despite Keith Olberman's generous offer to contribute funds to the fundraiser, and Waterboard Hannity for Charity's active online fundraising efforts: you may go there to "pledge a donation to the organization of your choice and encourage Mr. Hannity to deliver on his promise!"



After All, Bush and Cheney Did It the Old-Fashioned Way: Theft. The Caucus reports: "Representative Pete Sessions (R-TX), may indeed face an uphill fight with his argument that Mr. Obama is not trying to create jobs. In an interview, Mr. Sessions cited rising unemployment in asserting that the administration intended to 'diminish employment and diminish stock prices' as part of a 'divide and conquer' strategy to consolidate power.Mr. Sessions, in his seventh term, said Mr. Obama’s agenda was 'intended to inflict damage and hardship on the free enterprise system, if not to kill it.' By next fall, he predicted, voters may regain appreciation for the era of Republican governance when 'many dreams were achieved,' the size of the economy doubled and employment and financial markets hit record levels."


And, Dude, the Pina Coladas Are to Die For!
Capitol Briefing reports: Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL), a senior member of the Armed Services Committee, said he has visited Guantanamo and found it to be completely acceptable as a facility for the 240 alleged terrorists there. Transferring the prisoners to a continental U.S. site would not result in any better conditions for the prisoners, and keeping them at such a remote location makes it almost impossible for anyone to break them out, Sessions said. "They wouldn't be treated any better in the United States, and they wouldn't have the tropical breezes blowing through," Sessions said.




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Jesse Ventura, a Waterboard, Dick Cheney, and One Hour.

Larry King Aside. I often wonder how Larry King has managed to stay at the top for so many many many years. I lived in South Florida in the mid-sixties during my high school years and Larry's early career. I didn't get it then; now, decade upon decade later, I still don't. I know many of you do get it, and I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. But for me, he's one of those major stars who I believe ought to be on their knees every morning, noon, and night thanking God for their good fortune. Perhaps he does.

Larry likes - has always liked - to keep things "infotaining," well before that word was in our lexicon. His genius was to figure out that it's all about infotaining in the guise of "hard ball interviewing." As a corollary, he learned early on what the inside-the-beltway folks learned: it's about access. Tough questioning is incompatible with both infotainment and with continued access to the universe of stars and politicians he caters to. He's admitted that he never reads any of the books of his guests, and rarely does he seem prepared beyond what one could glean from a David Brooks column or a People magazine. In fairness, given his schedule, one wouldn't expect him to read every book, or know every detail, but since it's always been so obvious he's quite a dunce, then, I'll always ask, "how did he succeed at such a level?" It's softball questions + access + the luck of the Irish = Larry King, now well past 45 years of me head scratching and his success.

Anywaaaaaayyyyyyy, Larry King aside, my interest in the continuing Dick Cheney "Self-Indictment Tour" brings us around to Mr. King and his recent interview of Jesse Ventura, the growly icon of American style individuality and former wrasslin' Governor of Minnesota.

Larry asked, "How's Obama doing?" Jesse gives Obama a "too soon to tell," grade, and continues, "In my opinion, George Bush is the worst president in my lifetime," and went on to explain that Obama had inherited a mess he, Ventura, "wouldn't wish on my worst enemy." Nothing new there. Ventura clearly admires President Obama, but reserves judgment on his performance thereby showcasing a rationality his detractors often miss. In any event, when Ventura later opines negatively about Thank-God-Former-President Bush's intelligence," Larry displays that lust for infotainment versus journalism with his quick and testy, "Alright already with Bush, O.K.?" As you see in the video, Jesse, the man least likely to be affected by an "alright already," forged on.

In his response to Ventura's statement of the obvious about Bush's intellectual "legacy," King underscored what's important to King: access. He wants to interview Bush at some point in the future and can't afford to let Jesse's appraisal go by without a comment. Also, Larry doesn't think deeply enough to have much appreciation for why anyone would be much interested in Bush now. Bush is old news, a political Paris Hilton, and to Larry, they're fungible commodities - Bush is now a "celebrity" to be wooed and "accessed." Yet, for that celebrity value, Larry would like to get his hands on Bush again and again, likely to softball him through others' criticisms, and to assist him in establishing a meaningful legacy. Don't "misunderestimate," as Bush might say, how much he relies on Larry for that kind of treatment, and, most importantly, expects it from him.

And Exactly Where Was Dick Cheney on the Night of the Sharon Tate Murders? The real significance of the interview arrives after Jesse describes his own background as a Navy SEAL and how, during his training prior to deployment in Vietnam, he attended a mandatory Survival Escape Resistance and Evasion (SERE) "school." There, Ventura was waterboarded. He describes it as a quite dangerous practice even in the carefully controlled training environment of SERE - "waterboarding is torture," he says, definitively. This from a man like Ventura. Don't forget the context. Don't forget the underlying honest to God machismo of this man. I trust the appraisal of a man like Jesse Ventura, a man who has been there and who has great internal courage and capacity for pain.

The "iconic" moment of this interview arrives soon thereafter, and gives us and future generations a Ventura quote that reduces the pro-waterboarding, "ticking time bomb" argument to the absurdity it is. Larry asks, "What's it like?" to be waterboarded. Here you go, get your "quotes for all occasions" document open and be ready to cut and paste:

"I'll put it to you this way. Give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney, and an hour,
and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders."

Now, let's be real, Cheney would never survive an hour of such treatment. And no one, even Cheney, ought to be compelled to do so, even poor Sean Hannity who briefly, ever so briefly, offered to be waterboarded. Sure, there's a feeling many have that it would serve justice for Cheney to experience the SERE school exercise - perhaps he'd resign from the Chickenhawk Brigade afterward. Of course, the real meaning in Jesse's quote lies within its implicit refutation of the rightwing belief that waterboarding elicits truthful and actionable information. Moreover, it also implicitly addresses the "ticking time bomb" mantra employed by every pro-torture advocate. In a true crisis where time was of the essence, why would one employ, am intelligence gathering technique that
  1. Elicits false information which
  2. thereby induces action based upon that false intel that perhaps then leads to tragically wasted time; and
  3. will likely, as further and ever more rigorous waterboarding follows, utterly incapacitate or kill the prisoner, rendering follow-up questioning impossible?

Now, Because I Can't Help It, Back to Larry. After Jesse's suggestion about Cheney, Larry, in character, laughed his patented annoying "hehheh heh hehheh heh." Jesse, though, was not amused. Go back and stop the tape just after Jesse says "Sharon Tate murders" (at 2:29). Look at his eyes; notice how he feels at that moment, how he surveys King, and the depth of his purpose. That's what athletes everywhere call a "game face." Jesse, distinctly the beltway outsider, is s.e.r.i.o.u.s as, sorry Larry, a heart attack. King, as befits an infotainment and access maven, is manifestly not serious; he thinks Jesse's kidding, but not about the waterboarding suggestion. No one would waterboard Cheney to provide him a learning experience (although I really wouldn't put it past Ventura)

I think King's amusement was deeper, more revealing: no one would seriously suggest that the Vice President should be held accountable. Like Larry's earlier testy deflection of Ventura's jab at Bush, he believes what happened in the last administration is old news, let's move on, "hehheh heh heheh heh."

And that modus operandus is still endemic among the "sober punditry" of our press corps, unshaken by Bush's two disastrous terms. The punditry, as Glenn Greenwald, Digby, and many others have noted, rely on access to political insiders, and "Access Denied" to them is far worse than a "No Vacancy" sign is to a tuckered out driver at 3:30 a.m. So, to keep their access, their "punditry license," they accept patent falsehoods, or deflect serious discussion, particularly during Republican administrations for whom the punditry feel a special affinity.

This, we now know, was the manifest failure of the press during the Bush era when we needed hard-hitting investigative journalists the most. For the present Democratic administration, however, these pundits feel quite ready to take shots at Obama, apparently "access be damned." But if access is truly denied them on an energetic scale, we'll see, they'll again become "court stenographers." The "fourth branch" of government, the press, has been seriously injured by a combination of access-centeredness brought about by the lust for ratings and a pundit class that is quite overbalanced with Republican apologists. We may be saved by the growing reputation of blogs and online news sources and a youthful demographic that tends to get its news and analysis there. . .

Fort the time being, it's difficult, but sometimes someone charges through the barbed wire containment strategies of infotainers like Larry King. Jesse, the wrasslin' Navy SEAL, with a deft and quick headlock on the truth gave us a quote that deserves a place in Bartletts.


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The Holy Grail of Torture Documents To Be Released By Obama Administration.

A Sunday Washington Post article indicates that the White House will declassify and release a blockbuster 2004 CIA Inspector General (IG) report on Bush era torture tactics. According to the WaPo article:

Government officials familiar with the CIA's early interrogations say the most powerful evidence of apparent excesses is contained in the "top secret" May 7, 2004, inspector general report, based on more than 100 interviews, a review of the videotapes and 38,000 pages of documents. The full report remains closely held, although White House officials have told political allies that they intend to declassify it for public release when the debate quiets over last month's release of the Justice Department's interrogation memos.

According to excerpts included in those memos, the inspector general's report concluded that interrogators initially used harsh techniques against some detainees who were not withholding information. Officials familiar with its contents said it also concluded that some of the techniques appeared to violate the U.N. Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, ratified by the United States in 1994.

Although some useful information was produced, the report concluded that "it is difficult to determine conclusively whether interrogations have provided information critical to interdicting specific imminent attacks," according to the Justice Department's declassified summary of it. The threat of such an imminent attack was cited by the department as an element in its 2002 and later written authorization for using harsh techniques.
The CIA did not refer the IG's contentions to the DOJ for investigation at the time. However,
[t]he report's conclusions nonetheless prompted CIA general counsel John A. Rizzo to request fresh statements by the Justice Department that what the agency had been doing was indeed legal. Steven G. Bradbury, then deputy assistant attorney general, responded in May 2005 by issuing three opinions explaining why the interrogations did not violate the Convention Against Torture.
(For the text of the three Bradbury opinions, and other declassified torture-related documents, see my Snoopers Tip (TM) posting of May 9th, Snoopers Tip #10: Documentary Resources on Torture.)

Moreover, Greg Sargent at WhoRunsgov.com's PlumLine reports:
Dem Congressional staffers tell me this report is the “holy grail,” because it is expected to detail torture in unprecedented detail and to cast doubt on the claim that torture works — and its release will almost certainly trigger howls of protest from conservatives. Tellingly, neither the CIA nor the White House knocked down the story in response to my questions, with spokespeople for both declining comment. [Emphasis added]
Via litigation a massively redacted version of the IG's report was provided to the ACLU. If the reports are true that even under the White House's own permissive standards, torture was widely misused, and this was known to them via the IG report, and, moreover, that the IG cast serious doubt upon the efficacy of torture, this "holy grail" document may prove a bitter drink to swallow by Messrs. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Addington, Feith, Wolfowitz, etc. It will be especially interesting to see if Mr. Cheney is as visible as he's been lately on his "Self-Indictment Tour". . .


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Meet Limbaugh's New Publicist, Democrat James Carville.

Yes, that's right, James Carville - the architect of Bill Clinton's presidential victories and among the loudest and most entertaining Democratic party partisans - now claims he's Rush Limbaugh's publicist. And moreover, he's served as Planet Limbaugh's "unpaid publicist . . . his communications director, if you will." Have a listen:



He's certainly right about Limbaugh's present outsized influence. If you've seen the tape of his speech at the CPAC "festival" he oozes hubris; he makes Gingrich look pale and wan. If you're a person who wishes, for the sake of participatory democracy, that we had a marketable and sensible GOP, then the present ascendancy of Limbaugh, combined with the (thus far) sorry spectacle of RNC Chairman Michael Steele, makes that hope simply unrealizable. Until GOP chickenhawks grow some cahones and ignore Limbaugh's taunts rather than apologize to him there will be no alternative to this craven de facto leader of the GOP.

Their demographic base, driven and fed by Battleship Limbaugh, is unfavorable to future electoral success. The older bigots and racists who were manipulated by the GOP for 30 years, now have children who, thank God, show some tendency toward rethinking the old ways. The Democratic party, though, benefits from this GOP refusal to deflate Limbaugh. In effect, the GOP is, both figuratively and literally, withering and dying - almost suicidally - with its insistence on continuing to cater to its aging Luddite base and to the leader of the last war, Rush Limbaugh.

There is a non-racist, non-bigoted, non-Robber Baron (I think) alternative GOP, but to get there reformers must battle Limbaugh to the finish, and others too, like Beck, Hannity, and Coulter. Sane GOP reformers must strategize about Limbaugh rather than apologize to Limbaugh. Although, being a known Democratic partisan, I'm happy to wait for a "sensible alternative GOP" until after we have nationalized healthcare, revitalized regulatory agencies, reoriented the tax burden, replaced cut-throat competition with cooperation, and established a new attitude about governance as a laudable goal rather than a perennial target . . .

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On Our Economic Breakdown: Has Anyone Said It Better?

From the master, Scott Adams (link is to his blog):


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Snoopers Tip #10: Documentary Resources on Torture

With the release of more and more Bush era documents regarding torture I remembered that my very first posting on 2007 was on the topic, and thought then that a Snoopers Tip (TM) is really rather timely now. This Snoopers Tip provides a list of torture-related documents thus far released and links to them. As always, we want to have the authoritative, primary resources available when we want to compare our own reading of the documents with the media reporting. Also, following the document links I've provided a number of other related primary and secondary resources.

If you keep this post as a bookmark you can return to it whenever you want to check one of these references. In cases like these, with torture such a highly charged issue, media reporting is varied and too often extremely biased. Having these links to the primary documents at your fingertips can help you keep 'em honest. . .

The parenthetical remarks following each document are derived from the ACLU's comments section in their very useful Index of Bush-Era OLC Memoranda Relating to Interrogation, Detention, Rendition and/or Surveillance. I highly recommend their chart for the torture documents highlighted in this posting, but also for other issues such as surveillance. Their chart also lists documents that are still classified/secret.

The individuals in the list below are referenced as either authors or recipients of the memoranda:

  • Ashcroft, John, Attorney General
  • Bradbury, Steven G., Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General
  • Bush, George W., President of the United States
  • Bybee, Jay S., Assistant Attorney General, DOJ, Office of Legal Counsel (OLC)
  • Comey, James B., Deputy Attorney General
  • Goldsmith III, Jack L., Assistant Attorney General, OLC
  • Haynes II, William J., General Counsel, Department of Defense
  • Levin, Daniel, Acting Assistant Attorney General, OLC
  • Rizzo, John A., Senior Deputy General Counsel, CIA
  • Rockefeller IV, John D., U.S. Senator
  • Yoo, John, Deputy Assistant Attorney

Bush Administration Memoranda Declassified
and or Otherwise Released

Bybee - 1-22-2002 to Gonzales. Application of Treaties and Laws to al Qaeda and Taliban Detainees.

(Finds that because customary international law constitutes neither federal law nor a treaty recognized under the Supremacy Clause, CIL does not bind the President or restrict the actions of the U.S. military)[See Bradbury, 1/21/2009, no. 8, below]
Bush - 2-07-2002 to National Security team. Humane Treatment of Taliban and al Qaeda Detainees

(the President concludes that (1) none of the provisions of the Geneva Conventions apply to the conflict with al Qaeda, (2) the President has authority to suspend obligations under the Geneva Conventions with regard to Afghanistan, (3) Common Article 3 does not apply to al Qaeda or Taliban detainees, and (4) Taliban and al Qaeda detainees do not qualify as prisoners of war.)
Bybee - 3-13-2002 to Gonzales. The President's power as Commander in Chief to transfer captured terrorists to the control and custody of foreign nations

(Concludes that, “the President has plenary constitutional authority, as the commander in chief, to transfer such individuals who are held and captured outside the United States to the control of another country.”) [See Bradbury, 1/21/2009, no. 1, below]

Bybee - 8/01/2002 to Haynes III. Standards of Conduct of Interrogation under 18 U.S.C. Sections 2340-2340A
(Concludes that conduct rises to the level of torture under domestic law and the Convention Against Torture only if it causes pain akin to pain associated with organ failure, impairment of bodily function and death. Prosecution for such acts may be barred where it infringes upon the President's Commander-in-Chief powers to conduct war and necessity and self-defense may justify interrogation.)[See Bradbury, 1/21/2009, no. 4, below]
Yoo - 8-01-2002 to Gonzales. Memo from Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo To Alberto R. Gonzales, White House Counsel
(Concludes that interrogation methods that comply with 18 U.S.C.§2340-2340A do not violate international obligations under the Convention Against Torture based on the U.S. reservation requiring specific intent. Additionally, the methods could not fall under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court because (1) "a state cannot be bound by treaties to which it has not consented;" and (2) even if the ICC could act, the methods do not fall within the Rome Statute's crimes since they are not a "widespread and systematic" attack on civilians and neither al Qaeda members or Taliban soldiers qualify as prisoners of war.)
Bybee - 8-01-2002 to Gonzales. Memorandum for John Rizzo Acting General Counsel of the Central Intelligence Agency - Interrogation of al Qaeda Operative [Abu Zubaydah]
(Concludes that the CIA’s proposed interrogation plan for Abu Zubaydah — which contemplates methods including “insects placed in a confinement box” and “the waterboard” — does not violate the torture statute.)[See Bradbury, 1/21/2009, no. 4. below]
Yoo - 3-14-2003 to Haynes III. Memorandum for William J. Haynes II, General Counsel of the Department of Defense - Re: Military Interrogation of Alien Unlawful Combatants Held Outside the United States
(Concludes that the Fifth Amendment's due process protections and the Eight Amendment's prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment do not apply to enemy combatants held abroad and that federal criminal laws of general applicability do not apply to authorized interrogations of enemy combatants. Also asserts that customary international law can be overridden by the President at his discretion.)[See Bradbury, 1/20/2009, no. 5, below]
Goldsmith III - 3-18-2004 to Gonzales. “PROTECTED PERSON” STATUS IN OCCUPIED IRAQ
UNDER THE FOURTH GENEVA CONVENTION
(Concludes that the following categories of people are not “protected persons” within the meaning of the Fourth Geneva Convention: are not “protected persons” within the meaning of article 4 of the Fourth Geneva Convention: U.S. nationals, nationals of a State not bound by the Convention, nationals of a co-belligerent State, and operatives of the al Qaeda terrorist organization who are not Iraqi nationals or permanent residents of Iraq.)
Goldsmith III - 3-19-2004 to Gonzales and others. Draft Opinion on Permissibility of Relocating Certain “Protected Persons” from Occupied Iraq
(Concludes that under the 1949 Geneva Convention (IV), the government can remove "protected persons" who are illegal aliens from Iraq to another country to facilitate interrogation. Additionally, the government can remove "protected persons" who have not been accused of a crime, irrespective of whether they are illegal aliens, so long as it is for a brief period and adjudicative proceedings have not been initiated against them.)
Levin - 12-30-2004 to Comey. LEGAL STANDARDS APPLICABLE UNDER 18 U.S.C. §§ 2340-2340A
(Issued to supersede John Yoo’s August 2002 torture memo. Concludes that Congress's definition of torture, which requires conduct intended to cause severe pain, is not limited to "excruciating and agonizing" pain or suffering.)
Bradury - 5-10-2005 to Rizzo. Application of 18 U.S.C. §§ 2340-2340A to Certain Techniques That May Be Used in the Interrogation of a High Value al Qaeda Detainee
(Concludes that the CIA’s interrogation techniques do not violate the torture statute if used individually.)
Bradbury - 5-10-2005 to Rizzo. Application of 18 U.S.C. §§ 2340-2340A to the Combined Use of Certain Techniques in the Interrogation of High Value al Qaeda Detainees
(Concludes that the techniques outlined in the other 05/10/05 Bradbury memo would not violate the torture statute even if used in combination)
Bradbury - 5-30-2005 to Rizzo. Application of United States Obligations Under Article 16 of the Convention Against Torture to Certain Techniques that May Be Used in the Interrogation of High Value al Qaeda Detainees
(Concludes that “the use of these techniques, subject to the CIA’s careful screening criteria and limitation and its medical safeguards, is consistent with the United States obligations under Article 16.”)
Bradbury - 1-15-2009 (to File). Status of Certain OLC Opinions Issued in the Aftermath of the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001
(Advises that “certain propositions stated in several opinions issued by the Office of Legal Counsel from 2001-2003 respecting the allocation of authorities between the President and Congress in matters of war and national security do not reflect the current views of this Office.”)
Office of the Director of National Intelligence - 4-16-2009 to public. Member Briefings on Enhanced Interrogation Techniques (EITs)
(Lists chronologically the briefings for Members of Congress beginning on September 2, 2002.)
From Eric Holder, Jr. - 4-22-2009 to Senator Rockefeller. RELEASE OF DECLASSIFIED NARRATIVE DESCRIBING THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL’S OPINIONS ON THE CIA’S DETENTION AND INTERROGATION PROGRAM
SENATOR JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IV APRIL 22, 2009
(Sen. Rockefeller, from the introduction: "The release of the following declassified narrative completes an effort that I began last year as Chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence. The document is an effort to provide to the public an initial narrative of the history of the opinions of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC), from 2002 to 2007, on the legality of the Central Intelligence Agency’s detention and interrogation program.)

Disclosed in this release are still-secret memoranda. The narrative released via Attorney General Holder to Senator Rockefeller, however, does provide an initial narrative of a variety of these memos:
  • Ashcroft, John - 7/22/2004 to Director, CIA (Written confirmation that the use of the interrogation techniques addressed by the 08/01/02 Bybee memo, other than waterboarding, would not violate the Constitution or any statute or treaty obligation.)
  • Levin - 08/06/04 to unknown (Written confirmation that, subject to the CIA’s proposed limitations, waterboarding would not violate the Constitution or any statute or treaty obligation.)
  • OLC - 08/XX/06 to CIA (Opinion interpreting the Detainee Treatment Act with respect to the conditions of confinement in CIA facilities.)
  • OLC - 08/XX/06 to CIA (Letter interpreting Common Article 3, as enforced by the War Crimes Act, with respect to conditions of confinement in CIA facilities.)
  • OLC - 07/XX/07 to CIA (Opinion analyzing legality of the interrogation techniques authorized for use in the CIA program under Common Article 3, the Detainee Treatment Act, and the War Crimes Act. Released in conjunction with Executive Order 13,440, which interpreted the obligations imposed upon the U.S. by Common Article 3.)
Other Related Information

1949 Geneva Conventions & Additional Protocols

International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights


U.S. Law on Torture, 18 U.S.C. 2340-2340B (Whenever accessing federal statutes be certain that you have accessed the statute as amended to date.)

U.S. Law Conspiracy to kill, kidnap, maim, or injure persons or damage property in a foreign country

U.S. Law War Crimes Act

Society of Professional Journalists, A- Z Topical Index to the Geneva Conventions

Foreign Policy Magazine, April 2009, The Torture Timeline

ACLU, April 22, 2009, Index of Bush-Era OLC Memoranda Relating to Interrogation, Detention, Rendition and/or Surveillance

President Obama, Jan. 21, 2009,MEMORANDUM [on the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)] FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES

President Obama, January 22, 2009, EXECUTIVE ORDER -- ENSURING LAWFUL INTERROGATIONS



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